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Monckton Responds to My Defense of Abraham

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Update (July 18, 2011): Monckton told he’s not member of House of Lords. Clerk of parliaments publishes letter on Lords’ site saying peer is not and has ‘never been a member of the House of Lords’.

Christopher Monckton, The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley, sent the following email message to me in response to my blog post titled Turn the Tables on Monckton:

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The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley's Message to Me

 
 
 

 

Dear Professor Mandia, – My attention has been drawn to the following weblink:
http://profmandia.wordpress.com/2010/07/18/turn-the-tables-on-monckton/
I am surprised that you express support for Professor Abraham. It may be that you have not had the opportunity to dip into my careful and detailed reply indicating that at a number of points during his presentation he told lies, knowingly and willfully misrepresenting what I had said, conveying these fanciful misrepresentations to third-party scientists, obtaining understandably negative comments from them, and then using the comments publicly against me.
I also note that you have publicly accused me of “fraud”, and have widely circulated that accusation on the internet, and have expressed the intention to invite the mass media to repeat it. Since this is a serious charge, do you have any evidence to back it up, or should I add your name to that of Professor Abraham in the libel case that will be filed shortly? – Monckton of Brenchley
The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley
Carie, Rannoch, Scotland, PH17 2QJ
+44 1882 632341; fax 632776; cell +44 7814 556423

 

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Written by Scott Mandia

August 2, 2010 at 7:55 am

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  1. There is an error in the link there (the one in Monckton’s text), instead of linking to your blog entry it links through the Outlook server.

    Mandia: Fixed. Thanks.

    Monckton… what an embarrassment.

    Simon

    August 2, 2010 at 8:29 am

  2. Martin Luther King Jr. once said, “Let us realize the arc of the moral universe is long but it bends toward justice.” Similarly, the arc of science is not always as short as we’d prefer, but it bends towards truth. Distractions like this won’t change that fact, only delay it slightly.

    We’re with you, Scott.

    Lou Grinzo

    August 2, 2010 at 8:31 am

  3. Primo, obviously when Monckton accuses every living climate scientist on the planet of fraud, it’s an entirely different matter.

    Secundo, the good news is there will be a plethora of lawyers who would gladly take your case pro bono.

    Tertio, Monckton is a fraud.

    John

    August 2, 2010 at 8:56 am

  4. […] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Lou Grinzo, larrydevorejr. larrydevorejr said: RT @TheCostOfEnergy: Monckton threatens to sue Scott Mandia http://bit.ly/dl8fY5 […]

  5. To quote the Lord himself:

    “If Thomas Jefferson were alive today, he would be turning in his grave.”

    Anders Emretsson

    August 2, 2010 at 9:53 am

  6. Bernard J.

    August 2, 2010 at 10:07 am

  7. fraud libel…

    Bernard J.

    August 2, 2010 at 10:14 am

  8. Just beautiful.

    Predictable, but stunningly beautiful.

    The gall of the man!

    adelady

    August 2, 2010 at 10:31 am

  9. […] cure, etc., etc., etc.)?  Well, His Lordship wasn’t having any of that!  Here’s what he wrote in an e-mail to Scott. Dear Professor Mandia, – My attention has been drawn to the following […]

  10. Lord Monckton,

    Strictly speaking, Prof Mandia accused you of being a fraud.

    Expose Monckton for the fraud that he is …

    Here’s one definition

    • a person or thing intended to deceive others, typically by unjustifiably claiming or being credited with accomplishments or qualities : mediums exposed as tricksters and frauds.

    I believe that there are multiple examples demonstrating that the definition is appropriate.

    TrueSceptic

    August 2, 2010 at 1:00 pm

  11. I believe the good Lord’s word is so synonymous with the word trustworthy that he sued the Guardian for £50,000 that they weren’t even aware they’d paid!

    You’ll doubtless receive the usual piece of worthless ornately styled puffery from The Office of Monckton (read: cupboard under the stairs) which will at most have some conversational value whenever you next run into John Abraham.

    The chances of receiving any communication from a practicing attorney are slightly less than those of CERN going live on schedule.

    Now if you could also get Richmal North to sue too, you’d be well on the way to starting a collection of English crackers!

    chek

    August 2, 2010 at 3:29 pm

  12. His legal bill for all these libel cases is going to mount up…. Al Gore; Abraham and now yourself.

    We can only sit back and wait for the fun to commence and the fool to expose himself. Hope I live long enough to see it!!

    Bob

    August 2, 2010 at 3:42 pm

  13. For a complete-ish rundown of Lord Monckton’s deceptions, see “Lord Monckton’s Rap Sheet” here:

    http://bbickmore.wordpress.com/lord-moncktons-rap-sheet/

    Barry Bickmore

    August 2, 2010 at 4:12 pm

  14. Monkeyton’s behavior is just pathetic. He reminds me of the character “Francis” from “Stripes”:

    Psycho: The name’s Francis Soyer, but everybody calls me Psycho. Any of you guys call me Francis, and I’ll kill you.
    Leon: Ooooooh.
    Psycho: You just made the list, buddy. And I don’t like nobody touching my stuff. So just keep your meat-hooks off. If I catch any of you guys in my stuff, I’ll kill you. Also, I don’t like nobody touching me. Now, any of you homos touch me, and I’ll kill you.
    Sergeant Hulka: Lighten up, Francis.

    Someone needs to yank Chris back and tell him to lighten up.

    Derecho64

    August 2, 2010 at 5:15 pm

  15. I would be very surprised if the Viscount initiated anything other than more bluster, as it seems to be something he is good at.

    Of course, the fact that he’s targetting you means that you must be doing something great – power to you!

    As a total aside, the Viscount claims in his CV to have uncovered a major defense fraud in the 80’s involving warship hull design. The only naval hull controversy during the 80’s involved Moncton’s lot (Margaret Thatcher’s Policy Unit) pushing a commercial design for a Royal Navy vessel over the Navy’s own design. Thatcher (Moncton?) got an official inquiry comissioned on the matter – its descision: the navy is right. Cost? Over 1 million pounds, and if we take Moncton’s CV at face value we can conclude that he cost the taxpayer that money.

    Ref: http://www.ukip.org/content/latest-news/1675-christopher-a-man-of-many-talents

    Eamon

    August 2, 2010 at 5:31 pm

  16. I’m with you Scott.
    Monckton does nothing but bully and torment opposition to his point of view.
    Instead of a scientific debate, whereby the man ought to respond to John’s criticism with a strong scientific reasoning, he wishes to shut Prof. Abraham up.
    When he feels confident to ask for the assistance of the WUWT readers to spread his guff, he threatens you for asking your readers to spread the logical rebuttal to his madness.
    Monckton is nothing but an ill-informed nuisance that clearly and continually demonstrates that he cannot handle what he dishes out on others.
    If Chris cannot handle the heat, he should get out of the kitchen. If he wishes to debate against what is more than a century of relevant scientific investigation, he must accept when experts challenge the flaws in his arguments.
    His noise in climate science is nothing short of appalling.

    Tim

    August 2, 2010 at 7:35 pm

  17. IMO baiting & then threatening legal action is the latest “muddy the waters” strategy; I’ve seen what look to be attempts along those lines.

    They know they’ve lost on the science; onward to the “neener neener”, “I know you are but what am I”, “I’m shocked at what you called me, you moron” personal- attackathons.

    Never argue with a crazy person on the sidewalk…

    Anna Haynes

    August 2, 2010 at 11:33 pm

  18. Stay with it, Scott.

    And let us know if that lying, fraudulent bully Monckton actually does something.

    Mark Shapiro

    August 3, 2010 at 12:27 am

  19. […] Christopher has fired off an email to Scott threatening legal action against him (see the post here). Apparently, pointing out that Christopher wrongly claims expertise in climate science is worth […]

  20. […] of Abraham, inviting members of the media to consider if Monckton were a fraud — which drew a spiteful little email from Tannochbrae… I also note that you have publicly accused me of “fraud”, and have […]

    Monckton is a fraud

    August 3, 2010 at 5:36 am

  21. […] Monckton Responds to My Defense of Abraham « Global Warming: Man or Myth? […]

    Länkar 2010-08-03

    August 3, 2010 at 6:55 am

  22. Well, Mr. Lard Moncky, would you mind detailing how you propose to establish personal jurisdiction over both Professor Abraham in NZ and Professor Mandia in the U.S.? I like the Francis/Stripes reference above, and I’ll add another, an adaptation from Monty Python:

    CM: “Now let me fill you in. I’m leading this expedition and we’re going to climb both peaks of Mount Kilimanjaro.

    Informed Reader: “I thought there was only one peak, sir.”

    CM: (getting up, putting one hand over one eye again and going to large map of Africa on wall and peering at it at point-blank range) “Well, that’ll save a bit of time. Well done. Now the object of this expedition is to see if we can find any trace of last year’s expedition.”

    Informed Reader: “Last year’s expedition?”

    CM: “Yes, my brother was leading that, they were going to build a bridge between the two peaks, (looks at map with one hand over eye) My idea I’m afraid.”

    Mr. Lard, you know what you can do with your twin-peaks carnival sideshow.

    Sir George Head

    August 3, 2010 at 8:19 am

  23. Monckton’s made another mistake. His email text colour, lurid purple – chosen, I assume, to match his prose? – should in fact be green and in block capitals, a worthy long-established tradition here in the UK.

    Why? Because when you get one you, often in letter form with no stamp on the envelope, you immediately know not to bother reading the bonkers contents.

    Purple emails are obviously the current electronic equivalent! There is a Scottish phrase “mad as cheese” and yes, he is.

    Regards

    Jeff Gazzard

    Jeff Gazzard

    August 3, 2010 at 6:58 pm

    • I think the same should occur for those who also take the man seriously – a trickle-down effect of insanity, if you will.
      It would serve as an elegant and simple test to correctly identify nutters..

      mothincarnate

      August 3, 2010 at 7:10 pm

  24. Some say one can be judged by their enemies.
    By earning Monckton’s enmity you establish your quality.

    Well done, sir.

    The Yooper

    Daniel "The Yooper" Bailey

    August 3, 2010 at 7:22 pm

    • Indeed – being on Monkeyton’s “I’m a-gonna sue!” list is a credit to you.

      Derecho64

      August 3, 2010 at 7:40 pm

  25. Viscount Monckton is most certainly not a fraud. Quite the reverse. He has displayed a genuine, sustained, logical, open, analytical and honest approach to reviewing the evidence and the arguments for alarm about human influences on climate. He finds the evidence and the arguments seriously wanting. So do I, and so do a great many others.

    John Shade

    August 4, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    • This is the kind of Poe test I expected. I’m just surprised that it took so long.

      TrueSceptic

      August 4, 2010 at 2:46 pm

      • The Man of Darkness is pulling a fast one on us with his use of sarcasm. I know I couldn’t have typed what he did with a straight face (his use of the word “reverse” was the tipoff).

        Score the Man of Darkness 2 humor points.

        The Yooper

        Daniel "The Yooper" Bailey

        August 4, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    • :) Good one!
      I have to disagree with JMurphy however – I don’t think you could lay it on too thick. I’ve had as much commented on my posts and if you look at WUWT or Jo Nova’s blog, people do say such things and I think that they actually believe it!

      mothincarnate

      August 4, 2010 at 7:37 pm

  26. John Shade : sarcasm, treated properly, can be a fine thing. Well done.
    But you may have laid it on too thick – it was obvious that you were being sarcastic when you associated the words “genuine, sustained, logical, open, analytical and honest approach” with the Merry Monckton.
    Still funny, though, so thanks.

    JMurphy

    August 4, 2010 at 3:08 pm

  27. Sorry to hear about Monckton threatening you Scott. Stay strong.

    As you you Bob Ferguson, you should be ashamed of yourself. IMO, anyone who sides with Monckton is morally and ethically bankrupt.

    As for evidence of you being guilty of fraud, well you have left quite the damning trail on the internet showing just that Mr. Monckton…..

    MapleLeaf

    August 4, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    • MapleLeaf,

      You do know that Ferguson is President of SPPI and that Lord Munchkin is Chief Policy Advisor? But look, right in the blurb about Munchkin:-

      His contribution to the IPCC’s Fourth Assessment Report in 2007 – the correction of a table inserted by IPCC bureaucrats that had overstated tenfold the observed contribution of the Greenland and West Antarctic ice sheets to sea-level rise – earned him the status of Nobel Peace Laureate. His Nobel prize pin, made of gold recovered from a physics experiment, was presented to him by the Emeritus Professor of Physics at the University of Rochester, New York, USA.

      Does that read like a “joke”?

      Other familiar names: Willie Soon, William Kininmouth, Robert Carter, Craig Idso, Joe D’Aleo.

      TrueSceptic

      August 5, 2010 at 6:34 am

  28. Seems to me that any educated person that gets theatened by the lordy guy would wear that like a badge of honour.

    Ani

    August 4, 2010 at 8:21 pm

  29. Scott, Friends of Gin & Tonic made an enquiry to the House of Lords. They have a reply, and the Upper House are very not amused.

    http://friendsofginandtonic.org/files/867576d3dfe135ff8dcd26715bd86ac5-187.html

    Viscount Monckton of Brenchley is not and has never been a member of the House of Lords. However, allegations that he has claimed to be a member, and that he has used an emblem resembling the parliamentary emblem, have been drawn to our attention.

    The House is currently taking steps with a view to ensuring that Lord Monckton does not in future either claim to be a member of the House or use the parliamentary emblem or any variant thereof.

    The original enquiries:

    http://friendsofginandtonic.org/files/c3974ede3d81495627404f7acde7a7ce-186.html

    Mandia: Yes, I am aware of this new development. Thank you.

    J Bowers

    August 5, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    • Well, we couldn’t leave you and John Abraham to have all the fun. Although our new logo and the “taking steps” part of their response could mean that while you get sued by the vacant viscount, we get sued by the real lords!

      Roger Romney-Hughes

      August 5, 2010 at 7:52 pm

  30. Let us all do whatever we can to keep pushing “His Lordship’s” buttons.

    One suggestion is to use the information and link below to humiliate him in the eyes of any Media we may happen to run in to or any of his supporters.

    http://www.ukip.org/content/latest-news/1675-christopher-a-man-of-many-talents

    2008-present: RESURREXI Pharmaceutical: Director responsible for invention and development of a broad-spectrum cure for infectious diseases. Patents have now been filed. Patients have been cured of various infectious diseases, including Graves’ Disease, multiple sclerosis, influenza, and herpes simplex VI. Our first HIV patient had his viral titre reduced by 38% in five days, with no side-effects. Tests continue.

    villabolo

    August 7, 2010 at 2:01 am

    • Looks like Monkeyton’s CV is full of (at best) half-truths and a lot of egotistical self-aggrandizement.

      Global warming gives the man reason to live, because without his hate, he’d have no reason to live.

      Derecho64

      August 9, 2010 at 2:55 pm

  31. Before Monckton sues for libel he should give the British Chiopractic Association a ring.

    It would be a pleasure to do all that again.

    Jack of Kent

    August 7, 2010 at 5:34 am

  32. Monckton: ever entertaining. If he followed through on a tenth of his threats, he’d never leave the courts. I guess his various scientific research projects and incredible breakthroughs mean that he doesn’t have the time for trifling legal cases, only time to send a string of empty threats.

    Byron Smith

    August 7, 2010 at 10:30 am

  33. […] dei Friends of Gin and Tonic, risposta dell’augusto consesso),  solo contro il prof. Scott Mandia che ha osato difendere  il prof. John Abraham  che Sua Signoria aveva minacciato di querela […]

  34. […] himself launched the unconvincing legal threat against Scott Mandia, a professor at Suffolk County College in Seldon, New York. In addition to […]

  35. […] Member #403Re: Our cooling worldJust now Global Cooling? The not really a Lord Monckton is threatening to sue the author of this article because he had the gall to call out him out.  […]

  36. Lord Monckton is the definition of a fraud. Considering he’s been caught making up graphs then passing them off as real, he has not a leg to stand on.

    Ed

    August 13, 2010 at 2:07 am

  37. […] Christopher Monckton is now threatening to sue Scott Mandia as well: […]

  38. […] Mandia has published Monckton’s letter here. […]

  39. And Loud Monckton will face serious prison time for attempting to extort money from Professor Mandia, who has the First Amendment free speech legal right to do or not do with his money whatever he likes, regardless of all the nonsensical worthless illegal frivolous bullshit “lawsuits” that Monckton will be too lazy to even attempt to throw at him.

    NotMonckton

    September 14, 2010 at 5:57 pm

  40. […] Monckton Responds to My [Scott Mandia] Defense of Abraham […]

  41. There’s a Senate enquiry on in Australia, closing soon, on The Social and Economic Impact of Rural Wind Farms http://www.aph.gov.au/senate/committee/clac_ctte/impact_rural_wind_farms/info.htm, a good-bye present from Steve Fielding. You shouldn’t have, Steve, your departure is present enough.

    Monckton has made a submission http://www.aph.gov.au/senate/committee/clac_ctte/impact_rural_wind_farms/submissions.htm. This would be a great opportunity for anyone in the rebutting game to do so protected by parliamentary privilege.

    Philip Machanick

    February 6, 2011 at 10:24 pm

  42. […] Monckton Responds to My [Scott Mandia] Defense of Abraham […]


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